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Subject: [Scotch-Irish] Seceders
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:33:26 -0700
Hi Sandra, I would go to my local FHC unless you own the catalog
CD, and there use the CD or microfiche to look at subject index.
Look for both Presbyterian and Seceder. You'll find lots of info.
The expert, near I as can tell, on American dissenting Presbyterians
is the Rev. Reid Stewart. He publishes on the topic in Western PA.
He was a president I believe of the Western PA Genealogical Society.
I have a CD of their journals. Maybe this will help:
Exerpts from Stewart, Reid. W. "Scotch Irish Emigrations." WPGSQ 16 no. 4
(Spring 1990):10.
...When the Pennsylvania Land Office began selling the New Purchase (1768)
lands, called the West Side (of the Susquehanna River) Surveys in April of 1769,
a movement of Scotch-Irish from the eastern part of the state began, with many
migrating from the Cumberland Valley. This flow increased until the opening of
the Revolutionary War, and then picked up again after the close of the conflict.
The Valleys of the Conemaugh and Loyalhanna, with Ligonier as a center, soon
became well filled. The Derry Settlement in northern Westmoreland County grew,
and Hannastown, a more central location became the county seat in 1773. These
were all Scotch-Irish centers.
THE SCOTCH-IRISH AND PRESBYTERIANISM
The Ulster Scots were to a large extent descended from the Lowland Scots from
the southwest of Scotland. Presbyterianism had become nearly synonymous with
Scotland after the Scottish Reformation which took place in 1560. John Knox had
stood up firmly against young Mary, Queen of Scots after her return from France
to take the throne of her native land. The Lowland area of Scotland,
particularly the southwest had been deeply imbued in the Reformed faith. In the
17th century, the Covenanter cause had bean strong in this area. The
Presbyterian system of church government fostered a love of liberty. Members of
the congregation elected their ministers and ruling elders who acted as a
session or local ruling body. A number of congregations in the same area formed
a presbytery which was made up of all the ministers and one elder from each
congregation sitting as a judicial assembly over the congregations. This
democratic system was followed by James Madison as he prepared proposals for the
governing of the United States of America in the Constitution.
These Scots emigrants to Ireland took their church with them. From 1610 there
were congregations in Ireland which were Presbyterian in make-up, but there was
no Presbytery until 1642 to give a connectional continuity.
The smaller groups of Scottish Dissenter Presbyterian origin were much less
numerous, but even more tenacious. These groups were the Covenanters or Reformed
Presbyterians who gathered in Ireland in the late 11th century, and the
Associate Presbyterians or Seceders, followers of Ebenezer Erskine of Stirling,
Scotland, who requested preaching in Ireland by 1736, only 3 years after the
movement had begun in Scotland.
...
The earliest Scotch-Irish Presbyterian organizations in the Cumberland Valley
were:
- Silver Spring Presbyterian Church, Silver Spring Township 1734
- Meeting House Spring Presbyterian Church, Carlisle 1734
- Falling Spring Presbyterian 1734 (now Chambersberg)
- East Conococheague Presbyterian of Greencastle 1737
- Upper West Conococheague, Mercersberg area 1738
- Rocky Spring Presbyterian formed about 1739
- Lower West Conococheague/Welsh Run/now Robert Kennedy Memorial, in 1741
- Upper Path Valley at Spring Run 1766
- Lower Path Valley at Fannetsburg 1766
- Waynesboro Presbyterian 1818
- Central Presbyterian, Chambersburg in 1868
The slow rate of increase of Presbyterian churches after the initial burst of
organizations indicated the beginning of migration of the Scotch-Irish westward
and southward which reduced their numbers, and diminished the membership in some
of the old congregations until they had to be disorganized as in the case of
Rocky Spring and Welsh Run above.
The Reformed Presbyterians came in small numbers and clustered together in tiny
prayer societies, the first being Paxtang in 1721 (then Chester Co. now Dauphin
Co.) by members of the Brown family descended from the martyr John Brown of
Priesthill, Lanarkshire, Scotland. The earliest of these-
Covenanter societies in the Cumberland Valley was formed in 1740 at Stony Ridge
(now New Kingston in what is now Franklin Co. in 1742, and was known as the
Conococheague Congregation with small societies at Rocky Spring, Greencastle,
Waynesboro, and Hamilton (Twp.).
The Associate Presbyteians had come to Pennsylvania by 1742 in sufficient
numbers to send requestes to Scotland for a minister. This group listed itself
as from Londonderry, Chester County and would be today near the town of Oxford.
These Seceders made their way into the Cumberland Valley by the 1750's and were
organized into the Big Spring Associate Church at Newville, Cumberland County in
1764, and in what became Franklin County into the East and West Conochocheague
Associate congregations with centers at Greencastle and Mercersburg in 1769.
The density of the Scotch-Irish population advance in Cumberland County can be
traced by the formation of Presbyterian churches there. By 1734 these people
were numerous enough to have organized congregations at Silver Spring and
Meeting House Spring in the eastern half of the county. In two years Middle
Spring congregation had been formed at the western end of the county and about
the same time or a year later, Big Spring Presbyterian congregation.
These early churches tended to be in the country where a spring of clear water
was available to slake the thirst of worshippers, and Silver Spring congregation
remains here today. Shippensburg Presbyterian Church was not organized until
1767, and it was not until the 19th century that more Presbyterian Churches were
formed in Cumberland County.
- Dickinson in 1823
- Second Carlisle in 1833
-Mechanicsburg in 1860
The exodus of these families from the cradle of the Cumberland Valley spread
south and west until in a few generations the families had reached the West
Coast.
EARLIEST LISTS OF PRESBYTERIANS IN SOUTWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA
In 1772 Rev. David McClure, a New England Congregationalist minister itinerated
through southwestern Pennsylvania on his way to visit the Indians in Ohio. In
the autumn of 1772, three groups presented calls to McClure to minister among
them. These calls are an early census, if you will, of Presbyterian heads of
families here at that time. They read as follows:
We the subscribers, inhabitants of Fairfield Township, Province of Pennsylvania
and County of Bedford lamenting the great want of a protestant clergyman to
settle amongst us in this distant country and having an opportunity upon proper
environment of obtaining a gentleman of that character to preach unreadable/torn/blotted
. . two parts of that time at Ligonier and one third at Squire Hills.. .witness
this hand this 20th day of November 1772:
Jas. PollockGeorg GlennGeorge McDowl
John McNogherJohn McMillenJas. McCurdy
Jean CampbellJas. DonalyDavid Willson
David ThompsonThos. JamesonWilliam Bracken
A. Hendrick(son)James HowThos. Campbel
John MillenJno. LivingstonGeo. Hutchinson
Luke PicketWm. Hanna torn Archbald
____ FremanPeter ChaigneauJames Benford
Henry SlaterJames McKayJohn Hanna
Thos. CheneyJohn GuldRobt. Laughlen
Alxr. JohnstonRichd. ShenonRobt. Reed
Robert NoxJohn PalmerSaml. Smith
William McCuneJohn StinsonJohn torn off
James CooperJohn SellersThomas Woods
Matthew FowlerWm. WhartonRobert Gibbons
Robert SmileyGeorge FinleySamuel Shannon
Thos. BirdJohn Wilson
Addl names with additional pledges (some duplications):
Thos. CheneyJohn McNagherJas. McCurdy
John McMillonJean CampbellDavis Wilson
Thos JamesonWm. HendricsJas. How
Luk PickitCeasr FreemanPeter Shine
Henry SlaterJohn HannaJas. Pollock
Georg GlenGeorg McDowlRobt. Laughlen
Alxr. JohnstonRobt NoxJohn Palmer
SamI. ShanonThos. BirdJohn Wilson
Wm. BrackenRichd. ShenonRobt. Reid
Saml. Smith
We the subscribers of Mount Pleasant Township and others of the county of
Bedford and province of Pensylvania lamenting the grate want of a protestant
clergyman to be settled among us in this county and having an opportunity upon
proper incouragement of obtaining a gentleman of the character to preach the
gospel amongst us which inestemble polessing we embrace by promising to pay or
cause to be paid unto the Reverand Mr. David McClure the several following sums
annexed to our names for six months residence commencing from the 12th of
November to the 12 of May 1775?, he the said McClure executing the office of his
ministery at the tent near the Fourteen Mile Run in said settlement or at any
other covanent place near to it every third Sabbith to the assembled in witness
whereof we have hereunto set our hands this 11 of November 1772.
John ProctorWilliam CrierSamI. Coulter
William GrahamAlxr. BarrFrances M. Otis
Patrick Arms(t)?Saml. MoorheadJames Scott
Georg CousinsWm. SloanWilliam Barnes
David LivingstonSeth StilesWm. Perry
Josias CampbellArthur OharroFillib/Phillip Goss
Wm. MitchealSaml. SloanJames Latta
James BeardCharles BeardJohn Pumroy
Edward CahilClarence Logan
We the subscribers do hereby promise to pay or cause to be paid unto the Revd.
Mr. McClure the several sums to our name respectively annexed on the first day
of May next if so long the said McClure shall continue among us to preach the
Gospel and perform the duties of his calling.Witness our hands the twenty fifth
day of December anno Domini 1772:
John StephensonNath'l. CrawfordW. Crawford
Matthew Jeffery David Lindsay William Massy
John StewartJohn VanceElijah Innes
Jacob MinterGeorge ShillingsEzek'l Hickman
Robt. WorthingtonW. Vaniker/W.N.SikerBen. Harreson
Zach. ConnellMich. Teggart
"Recd. the whole of this Subscription from Mr. John Stinson, Collector and
others. J.D. Macclure, Stewarts Crossings May 28, 1773."
NOTE: Copies of petitions can be secured by writing attention Editor Jean
Morris, $1.00 for #1 75c for Nos. 2 & 3 including #10 SASE.
SOUTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA UNIQUE
Southwestern Pennsyvlania was unique in that the numbers of mainstream and
Dissenting Presbyterians were more nearly equal than in any other part of the
country. The Covenanters or Reformed Presbyterians had sufficient numbers in the
Forks of the Yough by 1769 to form a society which was visited by Rev. Alexander
Dobbin of Gettysburg, Pa. in the autumn of 1775. The Seceders or Associate
Presbyterians began asking for preaching in 1773 and had a congregation near
Canonsburg (then Westmoreland, now Washington Co.) by 1775. These two groups,
for the most part, coalesced in 1782 to form the Associate Reformed Church in
North America. The continuing Associate Presbyterian Church after 1782 grew
rapidly, and here in Pittsburgh in 1858 the Associate Reformed and Associate
denominations united to form the United Presbyterian Church of North America.
The union of the Old School and New School branches of the Presbyterian Church
in the United States of America took place at the Third Presbyterian Church in
Pittsburgh Pa. in 1869. healing a breach begun in 1837.
THE SCOTCH-IRISH AND EDUCATION
The Scotch-Irish valued education and tried to provide, if at all possible, for
the schooling of their children. Even after the Revolutionary War, the most
educated men in most of the backwoods communities in W. Pa. were Presbyterian
clergymen. Log schools were often built beside the churches to provide food for
the mind as well as for the spirit.
Presbyterian clergy, both mainstream and Dissenting helped to organize and
became instructors in the early colleges. Rev. Robert Bruce, minister of the
First Associate Church of Pittsburgh (now Bellefield Presbyterian Church) and
Rev. John Black, minister of the First Reformed Presbyterian Church, were
professors of the antecedent Institution which developed Into the University of
Pittsburgh. Rev. John McMillan, pastor of the Old Hill Chartiers Presbyterian
Church, and Rev. Matthew Henderson, Sr., pastor of the Chartiers Associate
Church both near Canonshurg (now Washington County) were involved in the
founding of Jefferson Academy (now merged and called Washington and Jefferson
College).
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Dickson, R.J. Ulster Emigration to Colonial America. 1718-1775. London:
Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1966.
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1915 (1969 reprint, Hamden, CT: Shoe String Press).
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